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Post by Admin on Oct 19, 2024 3:56:34 GMT -8
If you are going to take supplemental minerals they should either be in a chelate form (bound to amino acids) or pre-acidified such as the malates, citrates, orotates, etc. These will not have any real effect on stomach acid. It is the cheap and common oxides and carbonates that are the real problem. The carbonates include coral, dolomite, and oyster shell. Examples of oxides are magnesium oxide/hydroxide and calcium oxide/hydroxide (lime). Between the two the oxides are the worst. These form hydroxides (OH), which are not only caustic (will burn tissues), but they are also some of the strongest free radicals known.
Make sure you read labels carefully. Even if the front of the bottle label says it is something like calcium citrate, it may still be combined with cheaper oxides or carbonates.
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Post by Admin on Oct 19, 2024 4:03:28 GMT -8
Any products you recommend, James? I have an acquaintance on Facebook who sells that 90 For Life stuff promoted by Dr. Joel Wallach, which seems like a high priced over hyped MLM product
Yes, you are absolutely correct about that. That is one of the reasons I hate MLM. They have to really hype up the claims about the product and mislead people to justify selling the products for 5 to 10 times more than the product should be sold for.
and he says colloidal minerals are the best.
Only if you are in to a lot of toxic metals in products.
Then there's stuff like Mineral Rich, , Natural Life Minerals, and many other products like these. I don't know who to believe, really., but I value your views very much.
If I had to choose between the two I would go with the second one with the sea minerals and without the fructose. But since I don't have to choose between these two I will stick to getting my minerals from plant sources. Seaweeds, alfalfa and nettle leaf are a few examples of mineral rich plants. They also provide other nutrients such as vitamins and amino acids and other beneficial compounds such as sterols, polysaccharides, phytoestrogens, etc.
What does ionic and colloidal actually mean anyway?
These are used loosely as sales terms to make the products sound really scientific and impressive.
Ions are atoms that have gained an electrical charge by the gain or loss of electrons. Ionic compounds are compounds containing a positively charged ion balanced by a negatively charged ion. For example, sodium chloride ("table salt") containing a positively charges sodium ion (Na+) and negatively charges chlorine (Cl-). Ionic does not mean safe, nor effective. Hydrogen sulfide for example is a very powerful poisonous ionic compound. Sodium hydroxide, which is also an ionic compound will cause severe chemical burns to the tissues. Calcium carbonate is an ionic compound, but it one of the least effective and poorly absorbed forms of calcium.
Colloidal means a suspension of small particles. This can relate to a large number of things from gases to oatmeal. Even tap water or a muddy river are technically colloids.
In the case of the colloidal minerals pushed by Wallach these are made by the grinding of shale from Utah in to a fine powder. The shale powder is then mixed in water and allowed to settle out. What stays suspended in the water is the colloid.
These use of shale from these deposits though has come under a lot of fire due to their high content of metals, particularly aluminum. But colloidal minerals can also contain lead, mercury, arsenic......
Another big issue I have had with Wallach is that when his "colloidal minerals" came out he was claiming that the minerals were safe because they were "plant derived". The shale is made up in part of plants that existed millions of years ago. But they are no longer plants, and have not been for a long time. His claim is akin to saying the oil the oil companies are drilling for are dinosaurs still.
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Post by Admin on Oct 19, 2024 4:07:11 GMT -8
I was going through all my supplements and found a bottle of minerals I had purchased quite awhile back. In fact, it said best by 2011, but I suspect they're still ok, right? Anyhow, it's called:
Buried Treasure Pure Colloidal Minerals
70+ Plant Derived Minerals
Minerals Derived From Plants Growing Through the Eden Era
No Preservatives
No Added Sugar
This 100% plant derived colloidal mineral supplement consists of a natural assortment of over 70 minerals derived from plants growing through the Eden era. Trace amounts of these minerals are essential for health and vitality. These minerals are harvested from a plant material known as humic shale in Utah. They are of the same type found in fruits and vegetables. They are nontoxic, water soluble, and more easily assimilated than metallic minerals.
Good enough for the job?
This is a good example of what I was talking about the misleading claims about "plant derived". Notice that they say "plant derived" the "derived from plants" when neither is even close to being true.
They finally admit the truth when they state the minerals were harvested from humic shale in Utah. Shale is not plants, it is rock. There may be some fossils of plants in the shale, but that does not make it plants. Must like there will be fossilized dinosaur poo in the shale as well but that does not mean the minerals are derived from dinosaur poo.
Shale is not plants in any manner. Actually, if they want to get really technical the shale is mud that has hardened in to rock. Plants, animals and animal excrement may have been buried in the mud and eventually decayed away and replaced by the minerals of the mud, which is how fossils form. But this does not mean the shale is the plants, animals or excrement. Again, this is a major reason I hate multilevel marketing (MLM). MLM companies tell the truth less often than politicians.
Are these minerals the same as found in fruits and vegetables? Not really. The minerals found in plants are generally bound to organic compounds such as proteins and acids. So again a false claim.
Are they non-toxic? I don't think so. Again, these shale deposits from Utah have been found to have extremely high levels of aluminum and other metals such as lead. And unlike many plants that generally have metal binders to protect the body such as phytates, alginates and pectins, the shale does not. So that was a lie as well.
Are they water soluble? This is kinda true. Some of the minerals depending on their makeup may be water soluble. On the other hand most of the minerals are not dissolved in the water, they are suspended in the water forming the colloid. Consider milk, which is a colloid. There will be salts in the milk that are water soluble thus they actually dissolve in to the water. The milk proteins though are not water soluble, but they are still suspended in the liquid creating the colloid. So that claim is highly misleading.
And finally, are the minerals easier to absorb that metallic minerals? Yes, but again this is misleading. You cannot ingest many metallic minerals. For example, lithium, potassium, sodium and calcium are a few of the alkaline minerals that react with water forming hydroxides. The first three do so so violently that they actually burn with a flame in the process. Therefore, it would be impossible to consume these in their metallic form.
Also keep in mind that many metals are toxic in their metallic form, and sometimes even when bound in certain ways. Germanium for example as a metal or even as germanium dioxide will cause severe kidney damage. It does not cause kidney damage though as "organic germanium" (Ge-132, Bis betacarboxyethylgermanium sesquioxide). Organic germanium, derived from plants is anti-cancer, helps with bone marrow repair, etc.
True plant based minerals are better than rock based minerals. This product is not derived from plants though, it is derived from rock.
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